Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side of
the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this group
and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be this - any
ideas please?
Many thanks
ajw


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How about Lockheed Jetstar?


On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 01:43:43 +0100, "Andrew Wilson"
> wrote:

>Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
>737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
>photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
>I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
>afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side of
>the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this group
>and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be this - any
>ideas please?
>Many thanks
>ajw
>
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Could have been several, Boeing 727, Fokker F100, Canadair Regional Jet, or
any number of business jets. A pic would help, or at least a better
description (colors, names, numbers, ect.) Try browsing
http://www.airliners.net

Andrew Wilson wrote:

> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side of
> the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this group
> and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be this - any
> ideas please?
> Many thanks



Probably an RAF VC -10.

[Image]

Two engines to either side of the fuselage back by the tail.

BobbyG

I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every airliner
flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each has a
caption describing what you are looking at.

There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the fuselage.
That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
Ron


"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side
> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this
> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be this -
> any ideas please?
> Many thanks
> ajw
>
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Many thanks for all your help and suggestions. The plane in question was
quite high up and no markings were visible. I would think that it was an
MD-80 as the body was very long (like a 757) so unlikely to be a F100.
Operators at LBA don't use this aircraft on scheduled services but it may
have been a holiday charter flight.
Thanks again
Andrew Wilson

"Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
ink.net...
>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every
>airliner flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each
>has a caption describing what you are looking at.
>
> There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the
> fuselage. That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
> Ron
>
>
> "Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
>> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
>> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
>> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side
>> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this
>> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be
>> this - any ideas please?
>> Many thanks
>> ajw
>>
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Apologies, I meant MD-90.
Andrew Wilson

"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> Many thanks for all your help and suggestions. The plane in question was
> quite high up and no markings were visible. I would think that it was an
> MD-80 as the body was very long (like a 757) so unlikely to be a F100.
> Operators at LBA don't use this aircraft on scheduled services but it may
> have been a holiday charter flight.
> Thanks again
> Andrew Wilson
>
> "Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
>>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every
>>airliner flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each
>>has a caption describing what you are looking at.
>>
>> There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the
>> fuselage. That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
>> Ron
>>
>>
>> "Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish
>>> between 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to
>>> that offers photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the
>>> world.
>>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA
>>> this afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached
>>> either side of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I
>>> have from this group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely
>>> couldn't be this - any ideas please?
>>> Many thanks
>>> ajw
>>>
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"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side
of
> the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this
group
> and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be this - any

Tupolev Tu-154 - Is a Russian airliner - looks similar to a 727!

--
Bing, Bang, BOOM, Voila-Done!

MD-80 works too. As well as the DC-9-80. MD-82, MD-88, 717.. They are all
based on the same airframe, with little differences here and there.
Ron


"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> Apologies, I meant MD-90.
> Andrew Wilson
>
> "Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Many thanks for all your help and suggestions. The plane in question was
>> quite high up and no markings were visible. I would think that it was an
>> MD-80 as the body was very long (like a 757) so unlikely to be a F100.
>> Operators at LBA don't use this aircraft on scheduled services but it may
>> have been a holiday charter flight.
>> Thanks again
>> Andrew Wilson
>>
>> "Ron Monroe" > wrote in message
>> ink.net...
>>>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every
>>>airliner flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each
>>>has a caption describing what you are looking at.
>>>
>>> There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the
>>> fuselage. That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
>>> Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>>>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>>>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish
>>>> between 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to
>>>> that offers photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the
>>>> world.
>>>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA
>>>> this afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached
>>>> either side of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I
>>>> have from this group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely
>>>> couldn't be this - any ideas please?
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> ajw
>>>>
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Serves me right for getting into this discussion. The man said TWO
engines on EITHER side of the fuselage. My mathematics says this
gives a total of FOUR engines. Sorry for my confusion. What is the
total number of engines (excepting the APU) powering this aircraft?


On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:25:35 GMT, "Ron Monroe"
> wrote:

>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every airliner
>flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each has a
>caption describing what you are looking at.
>
>There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the fuselage.
>That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
>Ron
>
>
>"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
>> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
>> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
>> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side
>> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this
>> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be this -
>> any ideas please?
>> Many thanks
>> ajw
>>
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My apologies.
There should have been a comma. I meant one engine each side of the tail
(total two engines). My house is directly over the flightpath from LBA
(although the planes are well up in the air already) and I have seen all
sorts of aircraft but never one like I have described before.
Thanks again
Andrew Wilson

"H Milton Lewis" > wrote in message
...
> Serves me right for getting into this discussion. The man said TWO
> engines on EITHER side of the fuselage. My mathematics says this
> gives a total of FOUR engines. Sorry for my confusion. What is the
> total number of engines (excepting the APU) powering this aircraft?
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:25:35 GMT, "Ron Monroe"
> > wrote:
>
>>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every
>>airliner
>>flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each has a
>>caption describing what you are looking at.
>>
>>There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the
>>fuselage.
>>That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
>>Ron
>>
>>
>>"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
>>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish
>>> between
>>> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
>>> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
>>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA
>>> this
>>> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either
>>> side
>>> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from
>>> this
>>> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be
>>> this -
>>> any ideas please?
>>> Many thanks
>>> ajw
>>>
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BMI just started a new service from LBA to Copenhagen using Embraer 145
regional jets.

Did the airplane look like this:?


http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1183191&WxsIERv=Rzoenre%20RZO-145...%20%28REW-145...%29&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Nzrevpna%20Pbaarpgvba%20%28Genaf%20Fgngrf% 20Nveyvarf%29&QtODMg=Jvaqfbe%20Ybpxf%20%28Unegsbeq%20%2F%20Fceva tsvryq%29%20-%20Oenqyrl%20Vagreangvbany%20%28OQY%20%2F%20XOQY%2 9&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pbaarpgvphg&ktODMp=Sroehnel%203%2C%202007&BP=1&WNEb25u=Cnhy%20Yrnpu&xsIERvdWdsY=A825UX&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=733&NEb25uZWxs=2007-03-01%2015%3A34%3A05&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=&static=yes&width=1200&height=812&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Rzoenre%20RZ O-145...%20%28REW-145...%29%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=1&prev_id=&next_id=1159604



"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> My apologies.
> There should have been a comma. I meant one engine each side of the tail
> (total two engines). My house is directly over the flightpath from LBA
> (although the planes are well up in the air already) and I have seen all
> sorts of aircraft but never one like I have described before.
> Thanks again
> Andrew Wilson
>
> "H Milton Lewis" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Serves me right for getting into this discussion. The man said TWO
>> engines on EITHER side of the fuselage. My mathematics says this
>> gives a total of FOUR engines. Sorry for my confusion. What is the
>> total number of engines (excepting the APU) powering this aircraft?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:25:35 GMT, "Ron Monroe"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every
>>>airliner
>>>flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each has a
>>>caption describing what you are looking at.
>>>
>>>There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the
>>>fuselage.
>>>That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
>>>Ron
>>>
>>>
>>>"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
>>>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>>>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish
>>>> between
>>>> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that
>>>> offers
>>>> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
>>>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA
>>>> this
>>>> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either
>>>> side
>>>> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from
>>>> this
>>>> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be
>>>> this -
>>>> any ideas please?
>>>> Many thanks
>>>> ajw
>>>>
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Thanks Bob.
That's spot on. I think that's it. The aircraft did have a long tube like
body (like a 757).
Andrew Wilson

"bob" > wrote in message
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> BMI just started a new service from LBA to Copenhagen using Embraer 145
> regional jets.
>
> Did the airplane look like this:?
>
>
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1183191&WxsIERv=Rzoenre%20RZO-145...%20%28REW-145...%29&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Nzrevpna%20Pbaarpgvba%20%28Genaf%20Fgngrf% 20Nveyvarf%29&QtODMg=Jvaqfbe%20Ybpxf%20%28Unegsbeq%20%2F%20Fceva tsvryq%29%20-%20Oenqyrl%20Vagreangvbany%20%28OQY%20%2F%20XOQY%2 9&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pbaarpgvphg&ktODMp=Sroehnel%203%2C%202007&BP=1&WNEb25u=Cnhy%20Yrnpu&xsIERvdWdsY=A825UX&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=733&NEb25uZWxs=2007-03-01%2015%3A34%3A05&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=&static=yes&width=1200&height=812&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Rzoenre%20RZ O-145...%20%28REW-145...%29%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=1&prev_id=&next_id=1159604
>
>
>
> "Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> My apologies.
>> There should have been a comma. I meant one engine each side of the tail
>> (total two engines). My house is directly over the flightpath from LBA
>> (although the planes are well up in the air already) and I have seen all
>> sorts of aircraft but never one like I have described before.
>> Thanks again
>> Andrew Wilson
>>
>> "H Milton Lewis" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Serves me right for getting into this discussion. The man said TWO
>>> engines on EITHER side of the fuselage. My mathematics says this
>>> gives a total of FOUR engines. Sorry for my confusion. What is the
>>> total number of engines (excepting the APU) powering this aircraft?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:25:35 GMT, "Ron Monroe"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every
>>>>airliner
>>>>flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each has a
>>>>caption describing what you are looking at.
>>>>
>>>>There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the
>>>>fuselage.
>>>>That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>>>>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish
>>>>> between
>>>>> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that
>>>>> offers
>>>>> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
>>>>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA
>>>>> this
>>>>> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either
>>>>> side
>>>>> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from
>>>>> this
>>>>> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be
>>>>> this -
>>>>> any ideas please?
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>> ajw
>>>>>
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"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish between
> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that offers
> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA this
> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either side
> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from this
> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be this -
> any ideas please?
> Many thanks
> ajw
Try

http://www.airliners.net/

All DC9 MD8X MD9X and most Canadair and Embraer RJ's and many Business Jets
have the engines on the sides of the fuselage near the tail.

Good Luck

Gerry

Can you imagine, having to type that all in? Thank God, we can copy the
shortcut.
Ron

"bob" > wrote in message
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> BMI just started a new service from LBA to Copenhagen using Embraer 145
> regional jets.
>
> Did the airplane look like this:?
>
>
> http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=1183191&WxsIERv=Rzoenre%20RZO-145...%20%28REW-145...%29&Wm=0&WdsYXMg=Nzrevpna%20Pbaarpgvba%20%28Genaf%20Fgngrf% 20Nveyvarf%29&QtODMg=Jvaqfbe%20Ybpxf%20%28Unegsbeq%20%2F%20Fceva tsvryq%29%20-%20Oenqyrl%20Vagreangvbany%20%28OQY%20%2F%20XOQY%2 9&ERDLTkt=HFN%20-%20Pbaarpgvphg&ktODMp=Sroehnel%203%2C%202007&BP=1&WNEb25u=Cnhy%20Yrnpu&xsIERvdWdsY=A825UX&MgTUQtODMgKE=&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=733&NEb25uZWxs=2007-03-01%2015%3A34%3A05&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=&static=yes&width=1200&height=812&sok=JURER%20%20%28nvepensg%20%3D%20%27Rzoenre%20RZ O-145...%20%28REW-145...%29%27%29%20%20BEQRE%20OL%20cubgb_vq%20QRFP&photo_nr=1&prev_id=&next_id=1159604
>
>
>
> "Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
>> My apologies.
>> There should have been a comma. I meant one engine each side of the tail
>> (total two engines). My house is directly over the flightpath from LBA
>> (although the planes are well up in the air already) and I have seen all
>> sorts of aircraft but never one like I have described before.
>> Thanks again
>> Andrew Wilson
>>
>> "H Milton Lewis" > wrote in message
>> ...
>>> Serves me right for getting into this discussion. The man said TWO
>>> engines on EITHER side of the fuselage. My mathematics says this
>>> gives a total of FOUR engines. Sorry for my confusion. What is the
>>> total number of engines (excepting the APU) powering this aircraft?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 04:25:35 GMT, "Ron Monroe"
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>I would go to Airliners.net. There, you can look at photos of every
>>>>airliner
>>>>flying. You can search by type, or look at random pictures. Each has a
>>>>caption describing what you are looking at.
>>>>
>>>>There are a number of airplanes with 2 engines on the rear of the
>>>>fuselage.
>>>>That design concept fas been flying since the late 50s.
>>>>Ron
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Andrew Wilson" > wrote in message
...
>>>>> Being new to commercial aeoroplane photographing I don't yet know the
>>>>> differences between types of aircraft (but am able to distinguish
>>>>> between
>>>>> 737/747/757). Is there a website that anyone can point me to that
>>>>> offers
>>>>> photos of all the commercial aircraft that are used in the world.
>>>>> I saw an aircraft in the sky about 5 minutes after take off from LBA
>>>>> this
>>>>> afternoon and it had no engines on the wings but two attached either
>>>>> side
>>>>> of the tail. I looked in the small number of photos that I have from
>>>>> this
>>>>> group and only a TU-154 was anything like but it surely couldn't be
>>>>> this -
>>>>> any ideas please?
>>>>> Many thanks
>>>>> ajw
>>>>>
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